Lastly, the notion that man serves animals: Humanity has dominion over creation, including animals. To tend, keep, and utilize as needed. With good stewardship and compassion. This is Biblical (which is why this idea is unpopular with those tending toward an irreligious world view.)
I agree—every person should make their own choices in dietary matters. The dark cloud over that kind of common sense and freedom is the repressive nature of progressivism. The “WE KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR YOU” mindset as “settled science.”
You really don't need meat to get protein. Even vegans can get protein from a purely plant-based diet and that has been shown in scientific studies to be the best diet for longevity. I eat a largely plant-based diet and have done so for over 35 years, the last ten of which I've been eating fish, but still no meat. A simple meal like beans on toast provides first class protein. So, I can't agree with you but thank you, Ron, for your input to the discussiion.
Sorry, Ron, but again I disagree. Science tells us that certain meats are harmful, especially red meat and processed meats, and it's not necessary in a healthy diet. Also, factory farmed meat is often full of hormones and additives. There is also a cost to the planet when forests are removed to make way for herds of animals for food. To humans, too, when the amount of grain a country produces to feed the animals would feed many more people per animal. I became a vegetarian 35 years ago because of the way animals are produced for food. They are usually not treated as sentient beings unless they're organic, and the cost is high. So I understand you like your meat but there is a basis not to iinclude it in a healthy diet.
With reference to the two inspiring centenarians; I live in a community of people from age 49 to 105.
The 105 year old when asked her secret answered that it was the Baileys Irish cream once a day! But her closest friends say that all she wanted in the last ten years was to die.
From what I’ve witnessed in my long years of caring as a career, there is no one answer to longevity.
Personally I do my best with care of my body, and I love my Spiritual journey.
One thing I’ve learnt this week is to ask What for? Why would I worry about living a long life? We hear so much now about longevity, but sure enough I ask What for?
Well, for me, as an almost 78 year old, it’s about living the life I have fully functioning, fit and well, so I care about healthspan, rather than longevity. However, we can learn from those who live exceptionally long lives, it’s not all in the genes, science tells us. Thank you, Patricia (my namesake) for sharing your views on longevity.
Dictionary.com tells us the meaning of longevity is: "a long individual life; great duration of individual life: Our family is known for its longevity. the length or duration of life: research in human longevity." I totally agree that it's about taking care of your health throughout your life but surely that's healthspan. Longevity is about living a long life. Science adds resilience as an attribute of those who live a long time. They are able to survive the knocks and hardships of health and just life, that many others can't. Thank you for adding to the discussion.
I agree with all of them but have reservations about getting up off the floor without using hands. At age eighty I count myself quite fit by being able to get up off the floor without using anything but my hands.
It takes lots of practice. We all have different goals according to our abilities. The fact that you can get down and up, hands or not, is good, and more than most people of eighty can do. My mother’s experience was inspiration for me NOT to age like her and is the extra push to keep myself fit as long as possible. Thanks, Patricia.
I identify with so many of your points, especially how hearing is connected to cognition
which I wrote about recently on my Substack. I invite you also to follow @webbieofwonder for a fresh take on aging—curious, bold, and free from outdated stereotypes.
Well, the fact that you can get up off the floor is a win. I'm in a Facebook group of my old town contemporaries and they laughingly discuss not being able to get up if they have to get down to the floor for some reason. Walking 3 times a day with your dog is great, you're spreading the movement throughout the day. Your friend's aunt sounds like another inspirational centenarian. Thank you Mary for sharing this.
It is a good word, isn't it? I like learning new words. However, I use ProWritingAid to edit my posts and it tells me not to use certain words. I recently used the word 'alleviate' in a post and was prompted to replace it with 'ease'. Needless to say, I ignored it. I fear we're dumbing down the language. Thank you, Anthea, for letting me know you liked the word.
Yes, I can definitely get up from the floor (and down) without using my hands, but can't do it the way your demonstrator showed at the start. Butt too big and don't have the strength. I love to hear about people age 100 (I have a friend who is about to be 101) but one does want them to be happy about it and not just surviving. And interestingly, when people are asked for their secret to longevity, they never seem to give the same answer!
I agree, Ann, some of the ways suggested are really difficult. The cross legged sit down and back up for me is impossible. As for centenarians, I don't think I've ever read an article about an unhappy one, though that's no to say there aren't any. They won't really know why they've lived so long, unless they've made a deliberate project of trying to, I suppose, rather like the professor in my examples. How amazing that you have a friend of that great age!
Challenging one notion: avoiding meat/protein.
At a certain point (past 60ish), the body begins “liquidating” muscle. Excess “fat” may masquerade this existential exodus of vital mass.
If you’re prone to thinness, you’ll be unable to ignore this matter. Your clothes will begin to hang where previously they hugged.
Eat steak, burger, MEAT!
Eat a lot of it.
The red meat myth has been refuted by the medical community.
Numerous sources, but here’s one:
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-you-cook-red-meat-not-the-meat-itself-is-what-hurts-your-heart#2
Free range/grass fed/hormone free is also prevalent in beef sources. This is what we look for.
The “cost to the planet” angle is joined at the hip with climate change religion. https://gsas.harvard.edu/news/beef-climate-change
Lastly, the notion that man serves animals: Humanity has dominion over creation, including animals. To tend, keep, and utilize as needed. With good stewardship and compassion. This is Biblical (which is why this idea is unpopular with those tending toward an irreligious world view.)
I agree—every person should make their own choices in dietary matters. The dark cloud over that kind of common sense and freedom is the repressive nature of progressivism. The “WE KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR YOU” mindset as “settled science.”
Let’s not argue, Ron. You have your opinion and I have mine. Let’s agree to differ.
Agreed.
You really don't need meat to get protein. Even vegans can get protein from a purely plant-based diet and that has been shown in scientific studies to be the best diet for longevity. I eat a largely plant-based diet and have done so for over 35 years, the last ten of which I've been eating fish, but still no meat. A simple meal like beans on toast provides first class protein. So, I can't agree with you but thank you, Ron, for your input to the discussiion.
True. And my wife and I utilize non-meat sources.
But the deemphasis on meat (a cultural/social stigma with no basis) is unnecessary.
Meat lovers should enjoy their NY, ribeye, etc. Particularly if muscle mass maintenance is an issue for fast metabolizers.
That was the point of emphasis in my comment.
Sorry, Ron, but again I disagree. Science tells us that certain meats are harmful, especially red meat and processed meats, and it's not necessary in a healthy diet. Also, factory farmed meat is often full of hormones and additives. There is also a cost to the planet when forests are removed to make way for herds of animals for food. To humans, too, when the amount of grain a country produces to feed the animals would feed many more people per animal. I became a vegetarian 35 years ago because of the way animals are produced for food. They are usually not treated as sentient beings unless they're organic, and the cost is high. So I understand you like your meat but there is a basis not to iinclude it in a healthy diet.
With reference to the two inspiring centenarians; I live in a community of people from age 49 to 105.
The 105 year old when asked her secret answered that it was the Baileys Irish cream once a day! But her closest friends say that all she wanted in the last ten years was to die.
From what I’ve witnessed in my long years of caring as a career, there is no one answer to longevity.
Personally I do my best with care of my body, and I love my Spiritual journey.
One thing I’ve learnt this week is to ask What for? Why would I worry about living a long life? We hear so much now about longevity, but sure enough I ask What for?
Well, for me, as an almost 78 year old, it’s about living the life I have fully functioning, fit and well, so I care about healthspan, rather than longevity. However, we can learn from those who live exceptionally long lives, it’s not all in the genes, science tells us. Thank you, Patricia (my namesake) for sharing your views on longevity.
Longevity is more about living the longest life independently and healthy…in the best shape you can…it’s not about the actual length…
There is no other way, because either you take care of yourself and your health or you are harming yourself…
Dictionary.com tells us the meaning of longevity is: "a long individual life; great duration of individual life: Our family is known for its longevity. the length or duration of life: research in human longevity." I totally agree that it's about taking care of your health throughout your life but surely that's healthspan. Longevity is about living a long life. Science adds resilience as an attribute of those who live a long time. They are able to survive the knocks and hardships of health and just life, that many others can't. Thank you for adding to the discussion.
I agree with all of them but have reservations about getting up off the floor without using hands. At age eighty I count myself quite fit by being able to get up off the floor without using anything but my hands.
It takes lots of practice. We all have different goals according to our abilities. The fact that you can get down and up, hands or not, is good, and more than most people of eighty can do. My mother’s experience was inspiration for me NOT to age like her and is the extra push to keep myself fit as long as possible. Thanks, Patricia.
Difficult to do the no hands thing with knee replacements and Ehlers Danlos
Then perhaps it's not for you. All exercise depends on your health and ability. Step counting is possible, though?
I identify with so many of your points, especially how hearing is connected to cognition
which I wrote about recently on my Substack. I invite you also to follow @webbieofwonder for a fresh take on aging—curious, bold, and free from outdated stereotypes.
I think we have exactly the same mindset on ageing, Webb. We're part of a new age of 'olders' determined to grow older positively.
I am 67 and I can get up off the floor using one hand. I have a fused foot and ankle so it is a bit awkward.
I do walk 3x a day with my dog and love that. He is a terrier and downs nothing slowly!!!
I watched a video of a friend’s 100 yet old Aunt doing the zip line for her 100 Birthday at Niagara Falls. It was awesome!!
Well, the fact that you can get up off the floor is a win. I'm in a Facebook group of my old town contemporaries and they laughingly discuss not being able to get up if they have to get down to the floor for some reason. Walking 3 times a day with your dog is great, you're spreading the movement throughout the day. Your friend's aunt sounds like another inspirational centenarian. Thank you Mary for sharing this.
Sadly, there are many who practice 1 & 2. 😿 It's important to 🙈🙉🙊
Longevous! A good word. (Yes, I had to look it up.)
It is a good word, isn't it? I like learning new words. However, I use ProWritingAid to edit my posts and it tells me not to use certain words. I recently used the word 'alleviate' in a post and was prompted to replace it with 'ease'. Needless to say, I ignored it. I fear we're dumbing down the language. Thank you, Anthea, for letting me know you liked the word.
Yes, I can definitely get up from the floor (and down) without using my hands, but can't do it the way your demonstrator showed at the start. Butt too big and don't have the strength. I love to hear about people age 100 (I have a friend who is about to be 101) but one does want them to be happy about it and not just surviving. And interestingly, when people are asked for their secret to longevity, they never seem to give the same answer!
I agree, Ann, some of the ways suggested are really difficult. The cross legged sit down and back up for me is impossible. As for centenarians, I don't think I've ever read an article about an unhappy one, though that's no to say there aren't any. They won't really know why they've lived so long, unless they've made a deliberate project of trying to, I suppose, rather like the professor in my examples. How amazing that you have a friend of that great age!